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Old Apr 20, 2006, 06:56 AM // 06:56   #1
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20 Shiverpeak Key Result:

1. Purple Smiting Rod (Req. 8)
2. Purple Jeweled Staff (Req. 12)
3. Purple Jeweled Staff (Req. 10)
4. Purple Truncheon (Req. 11)
5. Gold Water Wand (Req. 10)
6. Gold Recurve Bow (Req. 10)
7. Purple Accursed Staff (Req. 10)
8. Gold Great Axe (Req. 12)
9. Purple Inscribed Chakram (Req. 10)
10. Gold Holy Staff (Req. 11)
11. Gold Air Wand (Req. 11)
12. Gold Long Sword (Req. 12)
13. Purple Spatha (Req. 10)
14. Purple Holy Staff (Req. 11)
15. Purple Fiery Dragon Sword (Req. 12)
16. Purple Inscribed Chakram (Req. 13)
17. Purple Fire Wand (Req. 12)
18. Purple Great Axe (Req. 9)
19. Purple Ivory Bow (Req. 12)
20. Purple Truncheon (Req. 8)

Questions:
1) This isn't affected by any "anti-farm" thing right"
2) Is there a set amount of chests per area?
3) Are they all suppose to be uber high requirements?
4) Do you think key runs are worth it?

I payed 8.8k for the 20 keys and those are the results.

My opinion: Not worth it, too high requirements.

It's late now but tomorrow I'll ID them all, if I get some nice perf mods, I'll reconsider.
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 07:07 AM // 07:07   #2
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Location of the chest really matter. Some regions only drop specific weapons.
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 07:38 AM // 07:38   #3
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When I used to farm the trolls outside Droks I never bought keys and only used the ones that dropped. In retrospect I wish I had sold the keys as most items, including poor gold, went straight to the trader.
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 07:49 AM // 07:49   #4
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1. Not really sure
2. Not sure either
3. Depends on the area
4. Probably not, it's like a lottery ticket purchase
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 07:54 AM // 07:54   #5
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i do think only fow chest run worth the time and the money
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 08:08 AM // 08:08   #6
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Chests drop items that spawns in that area drop. So before you go chest farming a place like Witman's Folly, think: Do I like what Grawl and Nightmares drop?
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 08:09 AM // 08:09   #7
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Personally after having my fair share of woes with keys from just chest that give gold drops- not even comparing purple drops here.

Its not really worth it unless its keys from the end missions of the game.

Tomb, UW and Fow have been giving its fair share of junk even from gold drops. SF might be a different story.

It more likely a gold item drop from a mob would have better stats than one you would get from a chest.

Currently as it stand keys to me are a gold sink.

my 2 plats.
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 08:46 AM // 08:46   #8
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From almost year of playing this game I've got maybe 8 Really good items from chests (perf fell, chaos etc)...

From my experience I wouldn't do chest runs or buy keys at all. If enemy drops a key then it's fun to try your luck
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 09:24 AM // 09:24   #9
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you get crap doing chest runs solo. best results are when your in a group. this is from my own experience and likely wrong. but it seems to me from doing FoW. that out of 8 people using keys. there is almost every single time 2 good items drop. i.e. chaos axe shadow bow shadow shield shadow blade.
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 11:23 AM // 11:23   #10
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Definitley a way to make us spend and get nothing in return. Think of the amount of gold that is 'sunk' out of the economy by the means of keys - it stabilizes the economy and prevents the rich getting richer and the poor remianing poor. That's why the tempation of FoW armour is there because it will drain more than one million gold worth of assets.

I know that there are a few occasional good drops from chests but I (personally) believe that we get so shocked, tell everyone we know, and they all buy keys and get a nice purple cane each! ....there goes another few K out of the economy.
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 11:41 AM // 11:41   #11
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I used to do chest runs pre-keys whenever I wanted money. I don't see how it's worth it now.
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 11:49 AM // 11:49   #12
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chest runs are better with a small group of friends. You all bring keys and then take turns testing to see if the chest is gold or purple. If it is purple then nobody but the tester uses a key on that chest. If it is a gold chest then everybody uses a key on that chest. If the first item to come out of a chest is Purple then every item after that will still be purple.


I think that chests are worth is in the Southern Shiverpeaks, Sorrow's Furnace, UW, and FOW.

The hammer that my warrior uses came from a chest that my wife got. It is max damage 15^50 and req 9. I personally got a axe grip of fortitude from a chest that I sold for 76p. I have spent less then 10p on keys yet I have made all in all probably 100p.
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 11:54 AM // 11:54   #13
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It really is a risk to go chest farming. I do FoW runs every once in a while and I would bet that I am about even with what I've spent on keys for what I have been able to sell. However, the only reason I do it is for that one good item that I might get and make my money on. Furthermore, I only go chest farming when we have favor since the rate of a good drop increases (so I hear) and I make sure that I have a chance of getting something is worth some money. That is to say I don't look for a sephis axe in the troll cave in Talus Chute.
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 12:02 PM // 12:02   #14
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IMO I only buy keys for UW since I can use those keys in two places and I only buy about 10 each time and I rarely use them.. but when I do go down into the UW or tombs I never open the chest first lol I always let the next guy open it why wast my key on a purp call me self sentered for that but I bought 10 keys for 10 golds not for purps ...
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00   #15
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I got the gold bow I use on my Ranger from a chest in Tombs. Not the greatest, but better than any drop I've gotten, and better than paying a bunch of gold on an auction.

If I go on a Tombs run, I take keys, but I don't specifically do runs with keys for chests.
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 01:03 PM // 13:03   #16
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I used to farm shiverpeak chests. I fully believe that, yes, there is anti-farming code in place. I got a couple of really nice items at the beginning, including the Fellblade I'm currently using. Anymore, I don't even carry a key unless it drops from a monster because all Shiverpeak Chests give me complete junk. Even the golds are useless things now like Hale's with a +24. I get a lot of value-less "versus" items now, especially, it seems, "Tenguslaying".

In short, no. Don't waste your time. Get lucky like I did and you might get a 30k mod like a 20% +1 of fire, but, generally, it's not worth it.
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 01:09 PM // 13:09   #17
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Chest runs will always be a gamble. In the example, you spend 8.8k. It is still possible for you to spend twice or more than that and just end up getting a super rare item that is worth several hundred plat. Even if you just spent 8.8k and get all crap, it's still possible to get a mod that you can salvage and sell for a profit.

Imo, chest runs are not wise, but simply opening chests when you get around to them isn't necessarily a bad idea. I say this because when you go specifically on a chest run and use as many keys as you did, consider how long it took. Then consider how much money you would have made from doing something else (i.e. farming)

Oh, and I seriously doubt it sets off the over farm nerf unless you are killing enemies along the way.
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 01:17 PM // 13:17   #18
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When I do the solo spider cave run in FOW, I do bring keys and open chests. My guess is that - like another poster said - I'm about even.

I still enjoy opening the chests though since the gamble is fun. I don't do organized FOW chest runs anymore though.

I also open chests - using keys that drop, but not bought - with the trolls and also with the hydras. I seldom get anything very special. My best finds in those areas have come from drops - including a perfect brute from a minoatur.

And me too -- I loved chest runs before the keys. I'd hit the one outside Grotto (in those days) - it was quick and a easy way to dependably bank some gold.
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 01:35 PM // 13:35   #19
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You should identify, and sell for the expert salvaged PERFECT MODS. I farmed eoe bombing grawl, I recieved 21 keys, used them all up. Out of all I got some good perfect mods, sold the rest and kept the gold max 15^50 war hammer that needs to be remodded .
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42   #20
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i do fow chest runs usualy, recording stats of what i get:

190chests opened. 179 gold items (don't like to be the first to open a chest)
in those 179, 21 were perfect or near perfect stuff, sold for about 2milions. the remaining things have been sold unidentified. making anther 1.2milions

of course i test weapons... but it's just profitable to me
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